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Abner Dumoff's avatar

You know me. I believe nothing.

Having said that, I can say that I agree with the first five points. But without sources, I don't agree that the following list of seven items are 'facts.' I am of the opinion that those are elements of propaganda.

As a result, I do not see my position as conflicted in any way.

Robert Anton Wilson said "Belief is the death of intelligence."

As soon as you decide to believe something, you've stopped thinking about it. That's why you are having a conflict. You are believing things that you should still be thinking about. If you did, you just might find that they are not actually facts.

Martin Truther's avatar

I'm sorry not to have included sources other than the list of tweet-posts at the end of the article. The matter has attracted a great deal of commentary and analysis, so the full list isn't practical to include and is growing daily. Ultimately it will be up to the courts (if any case is prosecuted) and you might be one of the rare potential jurors left in America who hasn't already made up his mind. I agree with your principles of thinking and belief and I also subscribe to ideas of intelligence services that in order to function in a timely way, people and organizations need to hold to "best estimates" of what is true based on the best available facts and analysis, always with the provision that if/when new information comes to light, every "conclusion" is provisional. Otherwise, uncertainty-paralysis ensues which can prevent active interaction/observing of reality which would often lead to new and better understanding. Please let me know if your views on the constitutionality of ICE's practices changes.

Abner Dumoff's avatar

The situation in Minnesota is a textbook case of the 'Color Revolution' playbook. The media is manipulating the story to make it about ICE. The reasons are many, but the main two are: 1) Take down the Trump administration, and 2) Distract from the massive fraud scandal.

By focusing on ICE, we are doing the color revolution's work for them. Don't play into their hands. Look at all the celebrities talking about how ICE has gone too far. Doesn't it remind you, just a little bit, of those same voices speaking in the same unison, telling everyone to take the 'safe and effective' Covid shot?

The media is presenting a narrative instead of covering the actual news. Don't fall for it.

Mary Cannady's avatar

Thank you for providing the phone number to call and contact representatives. I googled it. I like the idea of a central location channeling calls and messages. Action steps are very helpful. Thanks for your years of hard work.

Martin Truther's avatar

Mary, thank you for you kind reply. It seems DHS is facing serious scrutiny on Capitol Hill now and there is a real possibility the government will shut down again if Republicans don't agree to Dem demands to reform ICE. it's getting interesting.